Comments on: Revisiting My 2015 Beauty Manifesto: What I Got Right, What I Got Wrong https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/ Financial independence and simple living Thu, 25 May 2023 23:13:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Kim https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-519454 Thu, 25 May 2023 23:13:31 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-519454 Face yoga!

I follow Danielle Collins on YouTube and face yoga is awesome! I would call it more relaxing, wrinkle-fighting facial massage than yoga, but it works so call it whatever you must. It’s free to watch the videos, feels wonderful, and has totally worked for me.

I’m 46 and I don’t wear any makeup ever, though I do tint my eyelashes every few months because my lashes are mostly blonde. My hair isn’t graying and I’ve never dyed it. The one thing that I truly worry about is the crepe-paper texture of my aunts’ skin, which I have totally inherited. So I’m devoted to moisturizer and face yoga.

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By: NotOld https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-516944 Mon, 01 May 2023 19:54:00 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-516944 Lol, I will have to reread this post and comments sometime. I completely agree with the conclusion that it depends on the culture you live in that defines how you think about your appearance and body. And the marketing machine in the US is very powerful. I recall when a marketing professor asigned us in the MBA program to read some marketing book by Seth Godin (I think that’s the name but not sure positive 100% as it was 20+ years ago). Boy, it put everything in a great perspective for me and helped me to build my wobbly stamina against the American BS advertising. I think I’ve done a great job that I must to change a bit such as begin using some of beauty products LOL. It becomes important as I approach 50.

I have two questions.
– I’ve seen retinol wrinkle-prevention cream at Costco and I’ve always wondered if it really works the way it says. I cannot trust to research on Google thanks to (paid) influencers all over. So, I’ll ask here: Do they really work and worth the expense? How long do I need to use it to notice a change? Finally, are they safe as far as a beauty product goes? My teenagers also say that wrinkes around eyes are fine because it means I smile, but maybe I frown more (well, I probably used to in the corporate setting before FIRE , LOL).

– My teenage DD also has acne issues (I barely had because I cannot really recall it). What products can truly help with it or do you just need to resign and wait it disappears by itself like Mrs. F waiting until mid-30’s?

Thank you!

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By: Liz H https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-516163 Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:44:28 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-516163 I have run the gamut on the beauty issue. In the middle of covid I gave myself a buzz cut and stopped wearing makeup. My friends all thought I was dying of cancer and one very open and honest friend finally said so out loud, lol. We got a good laugh out if it. What precipitated that move included years of trying to get makeup to stay put (and failing), a round of accutane (OUCH), lasers, facials, $200 eye creams, going from dark brown to pale blonde (bad idea but temporarily fun until lazy me took over), and a caboodle + filled with makeup and shelves of expensive creams. I just decided to embrace what God gave me while giving the middle finger to a world I was angry at for shutting down.
I have slowly grown my hair out. Ever so painfully slowly.
I am embracing my God given hair color-med/dark brown with silver highlights. Free highlights are the best kind 😉
I use face products made by a local herbalist that are not uber cheap but also not expensive, last a long time, are local(!) and honestly, my skin looks the best it’s ever been at 49.
I wear a bit of cream makeup concealer and eye liner because, joy of joys, your eyes disappear as you age. <srsly not cool …
I wear a bit of lip gloss or tinted lip balm to celebrate no more masks.
My 13 year old says I don't look any different with or without makeup so I guess I'm not overdoing it, lol
I have learned to accept whatever badges of honor my face is bestowed as I age.
My eyes have not only disappeared, but have failed altogether and now I need to wear glasses. BUT glasses make my eyes look bigger and hide some of my lines! They also eliminate any cares about my eyebrows not being what they once were. I consider them my crutch-with-benefits 😉
Overall, I think appearance matters but in an old fashioned way. Be clean. Wear neat clothes. Cover your bad self. Dress appropriate for the weather and the occasion. Brush your hair and keep it out of your food. Check your breath. Don’t wear scents that other people can smell unless they are sniffing you like JB. And respect your spouse’s wishes (at least try to compromise. I love you honey but I am not exposing myself to toxic chemicals because you like my hair a certain color. My husband wouldn’t say this but I have a friend whose husband has! ugh ).
Beauty is complicated.

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By: Dorothy R Clippert https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-516074 Fri, 21 Apr 2023 20:58:50 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-516074 Long time reader, first time commenter. I’m’ 65 years old. For the past several years I’ve colored my hair at home. I’ve never worn a lot of makeup, but enough to bring out my eyes. I’ve used anti wrinkle creams over the years with marginal results. I have been a dedicated sunscreen user. I draw a bright line at botox, fillers and cosmetic surgery. I understand that everyone has the right to undergo these procedures. It’s just not who I am. What if none of us felt this was necessary? It would make for a more even playing field in terms of acceptance of our physical appearance and acceptance of the appearance of others. I won’t lie, sometimes I wish I could allow myself to do this. But I know it just isn’t me or what I want to project out in this world. I generally want to accept my physical appearance as it is and focus on life pursuits that bring me joy and contentment. Lots of time spent on personal grooming isn’t it for me. I still think it boils down to a marketing ploy aimed particularly at women. Again, it’s a personal decision that each person has a right to make (if they can afford it – most people would consider this a luxury they cannot afford).

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By: Caro https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-516061 Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:12:32 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-516061 In reply to Rm.

A plastic surgeon of my acquaintance, also a mother of 4 and most definitely in her late-late 40’s, looks nothing even a tiny bit approaching her actual age on account of these little tweaks. I’d say she hasn’t had actual surgery on her face, she looks natural and normal and like a mature, normal woman (an attractive one) of somewhat indeterminate age, which is exactly what I want! I want to be ”sort of maybe around 40? Maybe?) rather than that tragic, puffy-lipped, frozen-faced, implausible-hair-and-lashes look that seems to be so pervasive. I just want to look like the most fresh-faced version of an adult middle-aged woman in good health!

LOL.

The same woman wears very little makeup, no gel nails or anything like that, hair is casual, just looks like an attractive person and quite natural. THAT’S the holy grail!

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By: Caro https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-516059 Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:05:50 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-516059 In reply to Alison W..

Yeah. Not shaving my legs / underarms is a hard pass from me, and I have quite fair, fine hair generally, am not at all hirsute. But… no.

Just no.

Saying that, in summer, I maybe ”need” to shave once a week, so it’s not an onerous or endless cycle for me. I can imagine if a person felt they needed to shave 3-4 times each week or similar, it would be a burden and actually feel like a waste of time.

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By: Debs https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-515803 Thu, 20 Apr 2023 04:18:33 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-515803 I actually came across your article of the beauty manifesto at a crossroads in my life. It was one of the articles that started me into rethinking spending and led to my husband and I living more frugal, and eventually allowed us to retire at 53. I stick somewhat close to the same regimen to date except I use concealer becauseI was blessed with dark circles, and for my special occasions I add Burts Bees to my cheeks and lips, and curl my eyelashes before adding mascara. Otherwise, my routine is very similar. I to believe the beauty industries tend to make girls and women feel bad about themselves causing anxiety and depression. We are all special in our own unique ways, and beautiful for it. Nothing else is needed 🙂

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By: Caro https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-515453 Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:46:43 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-515453 In reply to KaLynn.

Me neither. I work remotely and generally wear a solid ”nothing”, but have noticed that in strict truth, I absolutely do look much more ”awake” and nice with even just a little on. I have decent skin, but am very, very pale and sort of worn-out looking, so getting a very small bit of brow definition and a bit of coloured lip balm on my face makes a disproportionately big difference!

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By: Caro https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-515452 Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:43:10 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-515452 In reply to Sandy.

Also! We generally look – objectively – much better than we think we do, to that outside world. We imagine we’re so huge that the ground shakes when we walk, but every now and then a reality check reminds us that we’re *maybe* just a few lbs more than would be strictly ideal (just an example). We’re our own harshest critics and have a very distorted, hyper-critical view ingrained. I think of people I know who could objectively be called a dress size or two above where they could be and I do NOT think they’re ”very” overweight, nor do I think they’re unattractive. They look great, same as they always have!

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By: Caro https://www.frugalwoods.com/2023/04/11/revisiting-my-2015-beauty-manifesto-what-i-got-right-what-i-got-wrong/#comment-515451 Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:39:26 +0000 https://www.frugalwoods.com/?p=35794#comment-515451 In reply to Liz.

My VERY not-appearance-obsessed husband is strongly considering a bit of targeted botox to rid himself of the deep, lightning jag crevasse frown line that has been on his forehead, between his eyes for years and years. He’s tall, dark (and handsome!) with dark, thick brows, so the perpetual rage-frown line makes him look… annoyed. I think if he did it, he’d be thrilled!

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